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I was browsing your website with great
interest. You have done an excellent job of giving information about Hinduism in Today's World.
I am been constantly
seeking for truth, and therefore I am looking for the one True Universal God, where I can praise, worship and honor the True
Can you please tell me which is the one True Universal God?
Some times you have
- Lord Vishnu
- Lord Brahma
- Lord Shri Mahavishnu
- Lord Srimann Naaraayana (Creator of the Universe)
- Lord Shri
Looking forward for a reply
My reply :
Dear MR. D'Costa,
At the very
outset I thank you very much for your interest shown on the subject. I just give below a brief explanation about the Lord.
Naaraayana, who is the creator of this Universe is known as Sri Vishnu or Sri Mahavishnu. According to Veda the religious
scripts on Hinduism, the Lord has taken nine Avatar so far (Birth in ten different postures) to rectify the anomalies in the
society and to save the Earth from the then impending Calamities and to remove the evils from this Earth.
One Birth of the Lord is pending
known as "Kalki" avataar(form) and it will take about another 4,26,898 years to come. (The present part is of Kali Yuga comprising
4,32,000 years and we are in the first quarter having so far crossed 5102 years only).
Lord Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha was
one such Birth in the form of Lion faced Human, who just appeared by breaking open from a Pillar. This birth was for the sole
Individual named Prahlada, who was ardent disciple of Srimann Naaraayana, to save the Child from his father King Hiranyakasibu,
who was a non believer of God and considered himself as Supreme to everyone.
Hiranyakasibu, the ruler forced his citizens
to worship him only (the King) and none was allowed to worship any God. But his son Prahlada broke this rule to pray the Universal
Lord Srimann Naaraayana. When his father King knew about this, he was challenged to prove that the Lord Srimann Naaraayana
existed. The condition he put was, if there was a Creator of Universe existed, he Should not appear in Human form or
as animal, he should not appear during day time or night, he should not carry any weapon, he should not walk in just from
the entrances. These were all such
difficult task for any one to fulfill.
The Lord Srimann Naaraayana took this
challenge, as the confident Prahlada prayed, Lord Srimann Naaraayana took the avatar as Sri Lakshmi Nrisimha - the posture
is that of Lion faced Human with Long Hard and sharp nails stronger than a Lion 's paw, appeared between the day and the night
i.e. sun set (neither during day or night but the junction time known as Sandhya), thus fulfilling the King's all challenges
and saved His disciple Prahlada. He then tore the Kind's body two pieces apart and settled peace
Sri Lakshmi Nrisimha form of birth was just His answer only for the sake of a single human soul's prayer. So vast majority
of Srivaishnavites (who worship the Lord Vishnu or Sri Mahavishnu) worship this form of Lord.
The Hindu scripts of
Veda states, Lord Mahavishnu created the Brahmma through His Naval and appointed Brahmma to create the Universe. Brahmma created
the Shiva and made Him as a destroyer. Then the Rishis, Munis (saints and sages) with the paraphernalia of the Brahmma Logam,
(Eternal), Bhoologam (Earth) etc were created by Brahmma. Thus The creator is Srimann Naaraayana - The Mahavishnu, who is
also the preserver and Lord Shiva as destroyer.
This is called Tri-Murthy or Three faces of the Lord.
You may please
surf in my another web site on Srivaishnavam practices the URL http://trsiyengar.tripod.com and you will find the rational
behind the Hindu's practices.
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With best wishes for a Happy, prosperous and peaceful life to come ahead,
14, 2002 10.00 AM (Indian Standard Time)
am glad that you are using the Vedic Scripture to verify your philosophy. But you haven't given me any scripture reference.
seeking Truth, I like to discuss with you on the following topics
1) Origin / Creation of Universe
2) Nature of God
Origin, nature, and meaning of Man
4) Salvation of Man
5) Ultimate Destiny of Man
Following is the discussion
on Topic 1 (Origin /Creation of Universe)
You mention in your opening letter "Srimann Naaraayana,
who is the creator of this Universe is known as Sri Vishnu or Sri Mahavishnu."
In another words Lord Mahavishnu is
the creator of this Universe. But,
Later in the closing you mention, "Lord Mahavishnu created the Brahmma through His
Naval and appointed Brahmma to create the Universe. Brahmma created the Shiva and made Him as a destroyer. Then the Rishis,
Munis (saints and sages) with the paraphernalia of the Brahmma Logam, (Eternal), Bhoologam (Earth) etc were created by Brahmma."
I find Brahmma is the creator of this Universe, because he is appointed to create Universe, Shiva, Rishis, Munis, Brahmma
Logam, and Earth etc.
In the Svetavatar Upanishad
chapter 3 we find Rudra is Ishwara, Ishwara is the creator (Svetavatara 3: 4 " He, the creator and supporter of the gods,
Rudra, the great seer, the lord of all, he who formerly gave birth to Hiranyagarbha, may he endow us with good thoughts")
3:7 "Those who know beyond this the High Brahman, the vast, hidden in the bodies of all creatures, and alone enveloping everything,
as the Lord, they become immortal")
In the Svetavatar Upanishad chapter 4 it tells us the description of Ishwara as
Supreme Brahman and Creator.
(Svetavatar Upanishad 4: 12 "He, the creator and supporter of the gods, Rudra, the great seer,
the lord of all, who saw Hiranyagarbha being born, may he endow us with good thoughts.") (Svetavatar Upanishad 4:13. "He who
is the sovereign of the gods, he in whom all the worlds rest, he who rules over all two footed and four-footed beings,
that god let us sacrifice an oblation.")
the Rig Veda, a Rishi says, (The wise call Him by different names, they call Him Agni, Yama or Matarswa) According to this
mantra, God bears different names, but the confusion emerges when the very gods- Agni, Yama and
Matarswa are projected
as independent gods. When the Rig Veda has given independent identity to the above -mentioned gods, what is the significance
of this mantra?
Moreover, nowhere in the Vedas, Agni is called by the name of Yama or vice--versa. Thus, this mantra
serves no useful end; it only creates confusion. This is not the only mantra, which creates contradiction.
The Rig Veda (2/1/3-7)
calls Agni by the names of Indra, Vishnu, Brahma, Varun, Mitra, Aryaman, Tvastar, Rudra, Pusan, Savitar and Bhag. Thus, this
verse also adds to the confusion. If Agni is also Brahma, Vishnu and Indra, why are they accorded with separate godly identity
and status? This mantra also suggests that Agni commands more influence as compared to Brahma, Vishnu and Indra. Therefore
Agni is a true Universal God.
Mahabharata (Adiparva, 66/36) says that Aditi gave birth to twelve sons, and Vishnu was
the youngest of them. Indra was also one of them. Thus, Vishnu was the younger brother of Indra.
According to Shiva
Purana (21, 30-59), Shiva with his wife Parvati wished to produce a child by performing intercourse with Parvati. Resultantly,
Vishnu was born. When the light is shed on his being mortal, How is Vishnu a Universal God ?
The Shatpath Brahmin (14/1/17)
says that Vishnu was killed with an arrow.
Maitrayani Samhita (4/5/9) and the Panchavish Brahmin also accept the fact
relating to Vishnu's death.
How can we worship a Dead God?
The question thus arises, how can a person who is bound
by the chains of birth and death create the universe as popularly held in Hinduism? On what ground do
the Puranas' claim
to prove that all the incarnations, described in Hindu scriptures, belong to Vishnu?
In the Taitirya Samit -( 'Prajapati' is described as the creator of gods and demons,
while the Rig Veda (10/72/2) describes Brahmanaspati as the creator of
gods. Again the Taitirya Samit) (1/6/9/1; 2/l/21)
projects 'Prajapati' as the creator of Yagya and human beings while the Rigveda (1/96/2) says that Agni
created human beings.
That is why Agni is called the father of human beings.
But Agni has himself been depicted in Rig Veda as taking birth
as living creatures. It is also mentioned in the Taitirya Samit(1/5/9/7) that 'Prajapati' created animals; and having the
desire to create people he (3/1/1/1) observed penance.
Now there is again a question to be answered by the Taitirya
Samit, (it is known that it will not); if 'Prajapati' was Swambhu and the creator, why did
he observe penance? If he did,
he did to whom? This obviously suggests that there was someone who was superior to 'Prajapati', or like others, 'Prajapati'
was a creation of a religious fallacy and described as a god.
The Vedic scripture presented have contradictory views;
it serves only to misguide the people about the creator of the universe.
In the Bhagavad-Gita 10: 13-15 " Arjuna said: "O Krishna, I believe all that you have told
me to be true. O Lord, neither the celestial controllers nor the demons comprehend your glory. (10.14) O Creator and Lord
of all beings, God of
all celestial rulers, the Supreme person, and Lord of the universe, no one understands you. You alone
know yourself." (10.15)
Based on Bhagavad-Gita, Swami Bhaktivedanta and The Gaudiya Vaishnav school, claim Lord Krishna
is Himself the Supreme God, and not merely an incarnation of another deity (Refer http://www.asitis.com/foreword.html)
Sai Baba Claims He is the True, walking, talking, living God, who is currently
living on the earth, and performing miracles.
In all Hinduism has about 330 million gods
(The Compact Guide to World Religions by Dean C Halverson)
Trs Iyengar you still have to tell me who is the True Universal God?
Is it - 'Prajapati', Agni, Indra, Vishnu, Soma,
Mitra, Varun, Shakti, Krishna or anyone else? All of them are described in the Vedas as the creator. Who the real Creator
is still continues to be a riddle to be resolved by those who
believe in Hinduism.
Does all this not leave the impression
that the Vedic scriptures are books
written by men about God which is filled with no clear statements on who really created
The Hindu Trimurti consists of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Hindus ordinarily refer to Brahma as the -Creator,
Vishnu as the -Preserver and Shiva as the -Destroyer. However, Shaivites (followers of Shiva) insist that Shiva is the primal
person and source of the universe. Vaisnavites (worshippers of Vishnu) believe that he is the Creator-God and relate him to
omnipresent, primeval waters believed to exist before the creation of the world.
Basic to Hinduism is the belief that
the creation came from a primordial substance referred to as prakriti. Many teachers in Hinduism propose a pantheistic, monistic
view of creation (-that the universe, with its substance, laws and phenomena, is actually God in manifestation and that all
things in the universe are of one essential substance. This monistic view is termed Advaita) a concept that also insists the
natural creation is not real. It is an illusion, perpetrated by God (a condition called Maya).
In Hindu cosmogony,
there is no absolute beginning point assigned to the creation of the universe. Instead, there are an infinite number of cycles
of creation and dissolution. The creation stories are understood to mean the periodic emanations of God into the form of the
Furthermore, the word for creation in Sanskrit is srishti. It does not imply creating something out
of nothing; it rather means the transformation of a subtle or spiritual substance into a physical or material one. So the
more proper description might be that the universe is the (projection of the Supreme Being,) not an act of creation.
Bansi Pandit, The Hindu Mind (Glen Ellyn, Illinois: B & V Enterprise
Dear Mr. D'Costa,
is very interesting to go through the contradictions!. No doubt, these exist not only in everyones mind but in Veda too.
Before we enter into these matter,
just let us simply ask one question that every one needs an answer. What is the meaning of life, birth and death ? Is it just
a cycle that caused by nature or does it imply any reactions to the past and future? (before we are born and after our death)
Is there any life after death? Does
it exist and apply for every creature on this Universe? Practically, those who have seen, never spoke about it and those who
speak about these never seen it. (This is according to the Vaishnavite Azhwars Divya Prabhandam phrase in Tamil)
Sri Krishna says in the Bhagavad-Gita (this in itself is with many more contradictions), that He Himself is everything. And
this script is widely accepted by every sect and sub-sect of Hindu faiths/followers. Further more, Bhagavad-Gita is essence
of the four Veda known as Rig, YAJUR, Saama & Adharvana.
Lord Sri Krishna Himself declared that He is the one for
Saama Veda. Saama Veda is in poetic form and sung with Raaga. Does this mean that He is not in favour of other Veda or He
just recommends only Sama Veda to all?
I do agree, there are contradictions aplenty even within one
to other in any specific Upanishad. It
interpretations and individual understanding that matters. The splinter groups within Hindu religion are, no doubt, a creation of the confused lots.
state that Sri Krishna or Srimann Naaraayana is Supreme to other Demy & Semi Gods is - one small conclusive evidence in
every Vedic scripts - viz.: a surrender note. This is recited (by all the Brahmans from Dwaitham/ Adwaitham & VISHISHTAATHVAITHAM)
at the end of their daily prayers & after finishing each and every rituals, all the Brahmans used to offer their Karma
to Sri Krishna, who is known with 1008 Names. (This even the Shaivites who worship Shiva, recites at the end of each and every
Dwaitham, Adwaitham and VISHISHTAATHVAITHAM
- are the three major groups formed within the Brahman society. But at the end of each performance, rituals and routines,
all the three sects including the Shaivites, offer the benefits to Lord Sri Krishna with two different slokhas, which are
common to all. (Versus rough translation):
If I had erred in my offerings, whether
(recital of Slokhas), Tanrta (in practice) or in Bhakti (in my
devotion), Oh Lord, please Pardon me and accept
these offerings, the benefits of it belong to You, Sri Krishna. This is the rough translation of the following slokha or versus.
heenam, kriyaa heenam, Bhakti heenam,
uthaasana: yaththu thamthu mayaa deva, paripoornam thathasthuthe.
aseshaani, thapapa karma aathmakaanivai, yaani desham aseshaanam, sarvam Sri Krishna anusmaranam param).
Whatever just I did perform &
Spoke/recited, (including the daily prayer, any special puja etc) the Heart & mind as power, the entire benefits of which
I dedicate to the Lord Srimann Naaraayana.
(Kaayenu Vaacha, manase Indriyairva,
Bhuddiyaathmanava, prakruthe: svabhaavaath.
Karomi yathyath sakalam parasmai Naaraayanaayethi samarpayaami).
Thus irrespective of the Sects and Sub sects including
Shaivites, they begin their rituals with "Achyuthaaya
Nama:" (the first of the 1008 names of Lord Sri Mahavishnu)
finish it with above offering the same to Lord Krishna. Is it not in itself a proof that all the divisions within the Brahmans
accepted Lord Sri Krishna as Supreme?
I agree there are millions of Gods and demy Gods in this sub
you name a subject; you will find a God in that name in one or other corner of this land called Bharat
Alas! All the human creations.
About Religion, to the best of my knowledge, what I learnt from the olden scripts and
also through ages, generations and experience, I found that Hinduism is by far the flexible one for everyone to follow of
on own. No compulsions, no forces or pressures. Here one is free to adhere or leave it if he/she doesn't like.,
the sake of knowledge, I did read the other religious books, to some extent, but firmly settled with Hinduism, maybe it is
because I was born in the Community. But what I Could I sum up in few line is the following paragraph:
" Shiva or Vishnu? Who is great? Who stands tall? What
difference is going to happen by knowing who's
greater than whom?
It's a very childish idea. Greatness
and other concepts have killed the sensitivity in man. He does not bother about real things, whereas he is ready to argue
about the things which he doesn't know really, he just collected the bookish knowledge and started arguing about this.
Wonder how people could accept the
concept of God without really had the inquisitiveness to know about it. They think it is the cheapest thing in the world!
But you have to put yourself at stake! That's why it is dangerous to accept mere theologies any religion, be it Hinduism,
Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Jainism or any other you name it.
Now, here I agree with Shri.
Bansi Pandit (Ref: Bansi Pandit, The Hindu Mind (Glen Ellyn, Illinois: B & V Enterprise). His theory is most acceptable
one than others views.
People are carrying the
corpses instead of real-life experiences. Thousands of people killed all over the world every day in the name of dictates
from any religion. Hatred and enmity spread venom amongst each other. Does this world need such of these religions
If the world drops the so-called
religions, then the world would have a different dimension of living. People would take responsibility for what they are doing
they will not simply dump it on the ' one above '. Then the real freedom happens. Freedom leads to responsibility, Joy and
In my personal opinion, religions are creations of the society, which
wanted to have full control on the growing populace. To make sense and also to discipline them, they made several conditions
put forth for the commons. Veda is immortal. But the interpretations by many people at different stages manipulated the entire
value of the Subjects. That is the fact one will come to conclusion.
The great known saints
who lived in the 19th and 20th centuries are more enlightened ones on Religion. Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda
is a few to mention. And about Sri Krishna mission (ISKON) I am not making any comments. The Bhakti is there but with some
mixtures of west and east. Surely not traditional way of worship.
About Sri Sathya Sai Baba, the less said the better.
He has some magical powers. This any magician can do. He just cannot claim to be an avatar. Lord Himself need not boast his
own image! But I appreciate his efforts in doing a lot of social works such as building hospitals, free treatment, educational
institutions, water and irrigation projects etc. He too preaches non-violence and love etc.
I am not a scholar nor
I claim any religious status for me. I am a layman with ordinary qualities. I am not preaching/ propagating Srivaishnavam
culture. My aim and intentions are just to publicize the inner meaning of rituals performed by Srivaishnavites and make them
understand what they do. I never mentioned any Vedic reliance, slokha or versus from any Upanishad.
I know this letter
does not give you any reply to your search. Yet, it is a small way of clarification as a layman I can extend. If the world
drops the isms & Religion, then we can see a more different dimensions in life! That is the TRUTH.
Thank you very much for your patience to go through this
lengthy mail and
Dec. 21, 2002
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